Following on from our exploration of uprisings, this episode we’re taking a look at the systems that uprisings are fighting to change. What are these systems? Who creates them? And who are they serving?

We ask two people who simultaneously work both within and outside of mainstream systems to give us their unique perspective on the most effective ways to create change.

Learn – What are systems? (3 mins 15 secs)
Discuss – Lela, former Assistant Chief Executive at Islington Council @kogbara (13 mins 30 secs); Cleo, former Lord Mayor of Bristol @cleolakecreativity @CleoDanceBaton (38 mins)
Share – what can we all do? (57 mins)

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The soundtrack is ‘Ground is a Cloud’ by Child of Chief
Artwork by Katja Rackin